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Hey folks, It’s day 60 on MMS and so I thought I would share a few things I have experienced / discovered over the last 30 days.
One thing I noticed is my sinuses have started to clear. YEAH!!! Down side to that has been that all that crap up there drains into my stomach to be gotten rid of. My stomach has been less than happy with that. Some nausea sets in a few hours after taking the MMS as the drainage seems to happen most during the first few hours.
The result of that has been that raising my dosage of MMS has been much slower than I was doing earlier. After we figured out the protocol it was 4-5 days at a given drop level then on to the next level. Since my sinuses have been clearing (2 weeks or so) it has been more 7 – 8 days. Trying to listen to what my body is saying as far as the increases. The sinus drainage and resulting nausea and a bit of loose stool have been key, as far as when I have been making the increase.
I am currently at 12 drops AM and today was the first day for that. There was some sinus related nausea but other than that not too bad. I have been taking the MMS on an empty stomach and that has worked fine. Since the sinus stuff started I have had to eat something within 1 hour of taking it to offset the nausea. That seems to take care of it.
I’m not sure if being a bit loose is consistently the MMS or what I have been eating or? I have noticed that some things that I use to eat a lot don’t set well anymore. At least not at the moment. Peanuts, corn and citrus go straight through.
Another thing I have noticed more the past 30 days is I don’t have the energy I did. I’m thinking that the body is using what energy it has along with the MMS to get rid of all that nasty stuff. Not fully sure, as I haven’t been exercising as much as I was before the MMS so it could be that as well.
I guess time will tell on all this stuff. Check back with you if there is something interesting to report or at day 90.
Randy
I wasn’t planning on posting again so soon but stuff happens. I went to start taking 8 drops yesterday and got a bit sidetracked while counting the MMS drops. silly me didn’t catch it and probably got 9 or 10 drops instead of 8. results. You guessed it. SYMPTOMS. it wasn’t as bad as the first time on day 7 but it got my attention. all the symptoms I had day 7 were there (Yippee, NOT) but only about half as severe. the whole thing processed through in 5 hours or so, compared to nearly 12 on day 7.
the one big thing I noticed was unlike day 7 I wasn’t left totally wrung out. Was quite tired and slept off and on. guess the moral of the story is PAY ATTENTION when your counting your drops. I stepped back to 6 drops today and will go to 7 tomorrow. Just felt I needed to give my body a bit of a break after all the fun yesterday.
for those of you that may be reading this, what have your experiences been?
hey folks, it’s day 30 of the MMS process and I’m still standing. LOL actually since we started using the slower protocol I haven’t had any bad days. The only days that have had any symptoms to speak of are when I raise the drop level. That day I tend to get a little loose shall we say. Nothing bad. Not even inconvenient. Just noticeable. As far as the slow protocol goes it’s been 23 days.
I was going to raise to 8 drops AM 0 PM yesterday, but we had ice cream and cake for moms birthday on the 7th and that didn’t set well with the digestive system. figured that I would give it another day or two at 7 just to let things settle down.
The pattern for me seems to be using x drops for 4 or 5 days and then raising it 1 drop. another 4 to 5 days and raise.
another change that could be affecting things a bit is I started taking the living foods multi I talked about before. That and an HSO. So far it has been two tabs of the multi (recommended daily is 9) and 1 HSO. I’m taking it slow so I can gauge how it interacts with the MMS. It did make the digestion gurgle a bit the first day I took it. [day 28] but the next two days no problem and I feel better. so just putting that out there as a possibility. I know my body loves the stuff. Last time I had some was during the winter and I added 15 lbs of muscle in 3 months. that was only taking 4 tabs a day. Snow shoveling had a lot to do with that too. LOL but it wouldn’t have happened (and hasn’t in the past) without the support.
Will check in again when I hit 15 drops AM. Maybe earlier.
Until next time,
Randy
My mom has had basal cell carcinoma twice once ten years ago and then ten years previous to that. They were removed with no issues she had no spread of cancer and didn’t need any other treatment than removing the growths. The other day she had a spasm in a back muscle and while I was putting an icy hot patch on there for her I noticed a little area that looked abnormal. So I grabbed the camera and took some macro shots. There was one main area and one tiny area that was almost unnoticeable and one mole that looked odd to me. When she looked at the photos she said they clearly are not currently basal cell carcinoma but may be a pre-growth.
She decided this would be a good watch item for the MMS treatment. She is currently working her drops up slowly and when she gets to full dose we will start putting MMS topically on these abnormal areas to see what happens.
She has been a nurse for over 50 years so you can be sure she is not risking her health in any way by waiting to see what happens with the MMS before seeing a dermatologist.
The biggest area it is close to the size of a dime.
It is hard to see that there are areas on the top of this mole that don’t look right. 
The other little area 
The Herxheimer Reaction is a short-term (from days to a few weeks) detoxification reaction in the body. As the body detoxifies, it is not uncommon to experience flu-like symptoms including headache, joint and muscle pain, body aches, sore throat, general malaise, sweating, chills, nausea or other symptoms.
This is a normal — and even healthy — reaction that indicates that parasites, fungus, viruses, bacteria or other pathogens are being effectively killed off. The biggest problem with the Herxheimer reaction is that people stop taking the supplement or medication that is causing the reaction, and thus discontinue the very treatment that is helping to make them better. Although the experience may not make you feel particularly good, the Herxheimer Reaction is actually a sign that healing is taking place.
What Is The Herxheimer Reaction?
The Herxheimer Reaction is an immune system reaction to the toxins (endotoxins) that are released when large amounts of pathogens are being killed off, and the body does not eliminate the toxins quickly enough. Simply stated, it is a reaction that occurs when the body is detoxifying and the released toxins either exacerbate the symptoms being treated or create their own symptoms. The important thing to note is that worsening symptoms do not indicate failure of the treatment in question; in fact, usually just the opposite.
A Rose By Any Other Name
Technically known as the Jarisch-Herxheimer Reaction, this syndrome goes by many names, including JHR, the Herxheimer Effect, the Herxheimer Response, a Herx Reaction, Herx or Herks. The most common terminology used is the Herxheimer Reaction. It is also often referred to as a healing crisis, a detox reaction, or die-off syndrome.
History
The phenomenon was first described by Adolf Jarisch (1860-1902) working in Vienna, Austria, and a few years later by Karl Herxheimer (1861-1942), working in Frankfort, Germany. Both doctors were dermatologists mainly treating syphilitic lesions of the skin. They noticed that in response to treatment, many patients developed not only fever, perspiration, night sweats, nausea and vomiting, but their skin lesions became larger and more inflamed before settling down and healing. Interestingly, they found that those who had the most extreme reactions healed the best and fastest. The patient might be ill for 2-3 days, but then their lesions resolved.
A Medical Example
The Herxheimer reaction is caused by the release of toxic chemicals (endotoxins) released from the cell walls of dying bacteria due to effective treatment. The Herxheimer Reaction is well recognized in medical circles and is certainly not confined to the world of natural medicine or supplements.
For example, a recent study report (Feb ’04) on the treatment of Sarcoidosis found that, “. . . without exception, the improving patients are reporting periodic aggravation of their symptoms as an apparent direct response to the antibiotics. In other words, these patients say that their treatment makes them feel much worse before they experience symptom-relief.” The abstract of the study goes on to say, “This phenomenon is known as the Jarisch-Herxheimer Reaction (JHR) and is often referred to informally as Herx. JHR is believed to be caused when injured or dead bacteria release their endotoxins into blood and tissues faster than the body can comfortably handle it. . . . This provokes a sudden and exaggerated inflammatory response . . . . In Sarcoidosis patients, the Herxheimer reaction seems to be a valuable indication that an antibiotic is reaching its target.” In the conclusion, the author states: “In my work with Sarcoidosis patients, it is my experience that recovering MP patients understand and welcome the Herxheimer reactions even when they must endure temporary increased suffering. They accept it as the price that they must pay in order to get well and they even seem to find it gratifying to experience tangible evidence of bacterial elimination. “
Colloidal Silver & The Herxheimer Reaction
Herxheimer reactions in response to Colloidal Silver can occur as the body adjusts to the die-off process and responds to the increased load on the lymphatic system – particularly in cases of systemic and chronic conditions and/or severe infections.
The most common Herxheimer reactions for users of Colloidal Silver are:
- Headache
- Flu-like symptoms
- Itch and rashes
- Flushes
Usually, the reaction lasts a few days. In more severe cases, reactions can last a week or more.
In most cases, the reaction tends to be mild and barely noticeable, but there are exceptions, particularly in cases of severe infection. Certain conditions, such as Multiple Sclerosis, Lyme Disease and other spirochetical illnesses can engender noticeable Herx Reactions as the disease-causing pathogens are killed off. Users of Colloidal Silver who take the product for Hepatitis may also experience die-off symptoms, such as headache. Those inhaling silver to treat lung and sinus infection may also feel immediately worse for a few hours or a day before starting to feel relief.
Herx reactions vary widely, depending on many factors, including the general health of the individual, the condition being treated, the degree of toxicity that exists in the body, the frequency and dosage of Colloidal Silver taken, and the support the body is provided in eliminating the toxins as rapidly as possible. Method of use is also factor. For example, applications that allow concentrated dosages of Colloidal Silver to come in direct contact with the source of infection are more likely to result in a die-off reaction than oral use.
Although this article focuses on the Herxheimer reaction, please keep in mind that not all users of Colloidal Silver will experience a Herx reaction. However, it is important to be aware of the possibility and to understand that it is a symptom of healing, so that Colloidal Silver users do not become discouraged if symptoms temporarily worsen and/or discontinue use of the product.
Clarification
Colloidal Silver does not cause the Herxheimer reaction. Colloidal Silver is non-toxic, and a healthy individual will notice no reaction at all to Colloidal Silver. However, if there is infection in the body, a Herxheimer reaction may result as the infection is killed off. The severity of the Herx reaction is often an indicator of just how much toxicity there was in the body to begin with and is an indicator of the effectiveness of the treatment. It is actually a sign that the body is restoring itself to good health.
Time Frames
There is differing data on the timing of a Herxheimer reaction. Some data indicates that it usually occurs between four and 24 hours from the onset of treatment. Others note that between Day 3 and Day 5 of a treatment program is often when the reaction is most noticeable. What appears to be most accurate is that reaction times — and indeed whether there will be any reaction at all — are strictly dependent on the individual being treated. Duration of the reaction also varies widely, from an hour or a few hours to days or even a week.
What To Do In The Event of a Herxheimer Reaction
If the reaction is mild enough that it can be borne without grave discomfort, the best approach is to continue treatment and assist the body in eliminating the toxins as quickly and as thoroughly as possible by the methods below.
If the reaction is too severe, cutting back on the dosage or frequency of use can be very helpful in lessening symptoms but allowing the healing process to continue. Sometimes stopping for a day or so and then beginning again at a lesser dosage can allow for quick relief.
The best assistance for the body is drinking plenty of distilled water (a half gallon a day is recommended).
Other helpful suggestions include:
- Getting plenty of sunshine
- Minimizing exercise for the detox period
- Keeping the organs of elimination (the bowels, lungs, skin, kidneys, lymph) functioning properly
- Keeping the diet relatively pure during the detox period so that the body is not loaded with additional chemicals and toxins to eliminate while it is already working hard.
Adding lemon to the water, taking cold press olive oil first thing in the morning, taking sea salt baths and/ or steam baths and saunas, plus liver and elimination system supports can also be helpful, though any herbal supplements should be kept to a minimum and should be very mild and gentle in nature.
Conclusion
The most important advice in relation to Colloidal Silver use and the Herxheimer reaction is to “bear with the process”. The reaction is usually over within a few days and is well worth the cleansing and healing results. Plus, it is a sure sign that the Colloidal Silver is doing its job and working to help restore your body to natural health!
Warning: Any serious symptoms such as cardiac irregularity; breathing difficulties; chest, lung or throat constriction; significant swelling; or other severe symptoms should be given immediate medical attention.
The Herxheimer Reaction – Feeling worse before feeling better
I have been dealing with candida overgrowth for over 20 years now. For about the last 15 years I have had these extreme issues with my skin. At its worst I could lay in bed at night and just peel off skin left and right. The pieces would be about the size of half of a dime. Whether I did this or not my sheets would be filled with skin all the time and by the end of a day the inside of my clothes would be as well. It covers my entire torso and up the back of my neck, with a milder version on face arms and legs that is not really noticeable to anyone other than me.
I have used so many supplements over the years for the candida, but none did anything for the skin aspect of my symptoms and to be honest most just knocked back the candida far enough that I felt a little better (after the die off reaction). I have used garlic, pau d arco, caprylic acid, lactoferrin, massive quantities of probiotics, fungal defense, oregano oil, citronella oil, black walnut hull, colloidal silver, and several others that I am not recalling at the moment.
The most recent is Candex. The Candex is nice because there are no die off symptoms. When I take Candex (two at night, two in the morning) and stay on a very low carb diet (low enough to keep me in ketosis) The skin condition starts to clear up in 8-12 weeks. This is the only product, even in combination with diet that has accomplished this. However if I start to eat enough carbs to be out of ketosis, even if it isn’t a lot (like 50 grams) the skin stuff comes back in about 2 weeks. Candex alone without the diet restriction does nothing for the skin stuff.
When I heard about MMS I thought this is something worth trying, it is cheap too. The Candex costs about 60.00 a month and still requires me to be on such an extreme diet that I can’t maintain it for more than a few months at a time. My family started the MMS and we were working up in drops when my brother Randy hit the wall and got really sick. I hadn’t gone up in drops that day through a little serendipity. I thought if someone in the family was going to get sick it would be me. I know a thing or two about the herxheimer die off reaction, having been through it more times than I can count, in more than 20 years of attempting to wipe this stuff out. The whole family decided to back off and create a much slower MMS protocol for ourselves. Now I am on day 19 and am taking 6 drops. I’m about ready to go up to 7 drops but I am also on the verge of starting my period so I may stay at six for a couple more days as I often don’t feel well the day before and the first day of my period.
These photos are of my skin a couple of days ago. The light wasn’t wonderful but this is a little of what it looks like as it is dying out. I purposely have not been eating low carb to see what the MMS could do regardless of my diet. Considering the fact that I will not be at full dose of the MMS until I am taking 15 drops morning and evening this is quite impressive. This stage normally occurs around week 9 (63 days) of Candex and extreme diet restrictions. So at day 19 only (only 5 days of which I have been at the 6 drop level, which is considered just a maintenance level dose) my body is already this far along with no eating restrictions. Amazing! It has also cleared more in the last two days as well. Somewhere in my box of negatives I have some photos that were taken back in late 1999 or early 2000 that show it at it’s worst. When I can dig them out and get them scanned I will post them for comparison.
So at this point in time I would say the MMS is doing it’s thing quite well and I am looking forward to reporting more great results. I haven’t had any bad symptoms using the slow approach so things are looking good.
This one is from a year or so ago it wasn’t as bad as it gets but it shows better how it gets this patchy look. As it clears and the skin stops shedding so extremely it will have these large red welt like areas that will then start to clear one patch at a time leaving areas of clear skin until it is finally all gone.
Hey folks. I’m still early in my MMS journey but I thought I would share an experience that I had.
My sister Engtovo and I started out by taking one drop on day one and increasing the dose one drop a day. So on the 7th day I was at 7 drops. It was just an AM dose at this point. I had some, what I thought to be minor symptoms on the 4th, 5th and 6th days but wrote that off as no big deal. they consisted of very minor nausea for a few minutes, minor headaches, some “brain fog” etc. I figured that if the stuff was “really” working that I would experience some symptoms. After all, that is what happened with other things I have tried to use.
Well, on the 7th day my body decided that I wasn’t listening well enough and about 30 minutes after I took the dose the nausea set in. OK, I thought you have my attn. but that was just the beginning. shortly after the nausea set in I was kneeling in front of the porcelain. no more got done with that wonderful experience and I was sitting on the porcelain. This process continued for about 4 hours at 30 minute increments. nausea, followed by kneeling and sitting. Trying to say this without being too graphic. That pushed me pretty hard but the thing that affected me the most was that every time I was kneeling in front of the porcelain I would get these intense COLD chills. They would continue for the whole time I was “kneeling”. leaving me physically drained and then it was time for some sitting contemplation. At about the 4 hour mark I managed to get myself to the back porch where the sun was shining and I just laid there until I felt the urge to go back to the porcelain just to try and get myself warm again. It worked!
At about the 5 hour mark this stuff pretty much subsided but I was left physically drained and sore. It didn’t matter what position I tried, it was uncomfortable. It wasn’t until around 9 hours after my dose that I was able to keep any water down, and 11 hours or so after, that I was able to eat anything. It took about another 24 hours or so until I felt that I was past it all, and yet another 24 – 48 hours until I had my energy back fully.
Now some of you may be thinking that after reading this there is no way you would consider using this stuff. But that is exactly why I am choosing to share this with you all. I FULLY BELIEVE THAT I NEED THE MMS. My body’s response, even as intense as it was, told me I have some “bad guys” to get rid of. What I didn’t understand was that I needed to take it REALLY slow. Engtovo after seeing what I went through stepped back her dose and scoured the net looking for more info on MMS and any type of protocol for it’s use.
After hours of looking, she had gotten enough info to create the protocol listed here in these pages. It is a slow process where your listening to what your body is telling you. Any symptoms and you stay put at that level until you have a few days symptom free. Then you move forward. The original protocol works, and if you don’t mind feeling bad it is an effective way of clearing out the parasites etc. quickly. (the MMS was originally designed to deal with malaria. no taking it slow if you want the person to recover.) After my experience however, I am taking it slow. I figure it took several years to get to this point so I can give myself 3-5 months to get rid of it.
I have a theory that all the nasty parasites etc.. are what create our bodies to become acidic (body ph) rather than slightly alkaline which is what the body by it’s nature tries to maintain. that in turn creates the problems like Candida overgrowth, intestinal problems, vulnerability to cancerous growths, feel exhausted all the time, not to mention all the other “ailments” of our society. We are basically trying to live in a body that is hostile to live in. I won’t have a clear picture of all that until after the MMS process is complete and I’m doing the maintenance dose. I tested myself for body ph a few months ago and the number I had was 6.02 with 7.0 being neutral. So my body was acidic and I felt it. I’m thinking that after the MMS, my body will be slightly alkaline or close to neutral and that using a whole foods multi we found (see garden of life link) I can maintain a “healthy” body after that. I will be sharing my MMS experience here on the blog so people can have an idea how things are going. After the day 7 experience I went back to 1 drop and am now at day 19 of my total MMS experience and 5 drops. will most likely be starting 6 drops tomorrow.
Now I don’t know if my theory will hold true for everyone but sometimes the very simple things like that are the most true. If you think about it, if your feeding xx number of parasites throughout your body and they are taking away the nutrients you need to maintain your well being and their byproduct creates an acidic body where they thrive and you do not, then getting rid of them should allow the body to easily maintain optimum health, as that is it’s nature.
Until next time, Randy
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